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        <commentBody>Thank you, Mr. Brooks.  I'd have shown up at Sunday School a little more often if the lessons had been taught in such an intelligent, enlightening, and even-handed way.  Showing that the present is a reflection of the past -- and how little we learn along the way -- is a concept that should be introduced at a young age and subsequently reinforced.  Perhaps that eventually would bring about positive change.  </commentBody>
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        <display_name>DGSchmidt</display_name>
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        <commentBody><![CDATA[Oh, really!   Well, why don't we check out what Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. actually said about these kinds of wars American prosecutes half way around the world.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U</a><br /><br />He said, "The biggest purveyor of violence in the world is our own government."  He compared us to Nazi Germany.  He stood up against war.<br /><br />Obama quoting Dr. King while he's sending more Americans to die in the middle of nowhere for nothing, and threatening to invade Pakistan, is a mockery and a sick joke.  I wonder how many additional drone attacks Obama will order this year?  Call him Obomber!]]></commentBody>
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        <commentBody><![CDATA[It is really kind of disingenuous assertion.  For one thing, as noted in earlier comments, we have gone to battle with various democracies or almost-democracies, and the term is a bit nebulous.<br /><br />But even if it were purely true, what's the point?  It is not a magic principle.  We have demonstrated over the decades we will go to war with anyone the press stirs up enough ill-will about, or who is said to be attacking our interests.<br /><br />Some of us even choose going to war on more specious grounds, as witness Iraq.  It makes little sense to pretend we have a sacred principle on the issue.<br /><br />]]></commentBody>
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        <commentBody>The American public obviously includes many suckers for lies of the too-big-to-be-disbelieved variety.</commentBody>
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        <display_name>Steve Bolger</display_name>
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        <commentBody><![CDATA[Wait a minute!  The streets were filled with protesters yelling, "YOU WON IT, NOW EARN IT!"  The people there were as appalled as we are that Obama got this while escalating a war in Afghanistan.  Not sufficiently reducing the war in Iraq.  And now threatening to invade Pakistan per David E. Sanger of NYT.<br /><br />"So why not attack inside Pakistan? The Times reported on Tuesday morning that the United States has warned the Pakistanis that come early next year, the U.S. will be more aggressive against the Afghan Taliban in Pakistan, and against Al Qaeda, if the Pakistanis fail to take the lead. And its a story we will be covering intensely in coming months. — David E.Sanger - NYT"<br /><br />No wonder he needs 30,000 more troops! This madness must stop! ]]></commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Just like the Republicans to create business opportunities for the hackers who continually invent new methods to spam our email with lurid links to unaccountable offshore pharmacies.</commentBody>
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        <commentBody><![CDATA[Kpazz,<br />Our discussion led me to make another contribution to the DFA, for the push on the public option.<br /><br />Seems as though our public radio has, again, given airtime to the nuclear power industry.<br />I hope we shall not go down that road without a serious look on how we consume (the ever-growing market vs buying quality over quantity, and things such as urban planning and personal frugality/ lifestyle).  The question of radioactive waste must also be confronted.]]></commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Don't forget, CO2 is just one of a myriad of gases humans dump into the air that absorb infra-red radiation (also an unprecedented event in geological history)  tending to make the atmosphere a better insulator against the deep cold of space. Some of these other gases have more than 10,000 times the insulating effect per molecule as CO2.</commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Eddie, #1 thinks it is an abuse for the President of the United States to receive a Nobel Peace Prize?  Maybe a little to much Rush, Beck, and Hannity, Eddie?  I suppose it is more helpful for America to be seen throughout the world as the a nation which invades a country who has not attacked us, disawoys the Geneva Conventions, and tell the rest of the world it is our way or the highway.  I'll take the peace prize winner anyday.</commentBody>
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        <commentBody>What an inappropriate article-- which quotes history while fully distorting the facts-- and attempts to take the joy out of  a beautiful holiday with a tradition of hope and renewal. In spite of your "faux" intellectualism, this will be a beautiful night of family gatherings, of embracing our friends, our children and grandchildren while focusing on the tender feelings of love life can bring. </commentBody>
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        <commentBody>So Blackwater provided assets to the CIA. They're all special forces types who left the military to make more money for the same job. Looks like they did a good job. I don't recall any US diplomats under their protection getting hurt or killed. Do you libs want beat cops fighting wars? I don't.</commentBody>
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        <display_name>Dave C</display_name>
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        <commentBody>"..if you or any of your men are caught; the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Good luck..."</commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Roman is quite right. We have been taught to believe whatever we are told, including that we live in a democracy! How much more are we going to take? A lot more, because people are brainwashed and cannot see the truth in front of their eyes. Americans are very gullible, and believe that corporatism is synonymous with democracy. Actually they are the opposite of each other.</commentBody>
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        <commentBody>who ARE those guys?  more than a bit chilling to contemplate the caliber of character required to be a blackwater employee.  a workday filled with dishonesty, cruelty and dispassionate murder.  with no legal consequences....</commentBody>
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        <commentBody><![CDATA[Following 9/11, I was one of the very few deliberately patronizing and supporting the almost totally empty local restaurants near my home (back East), and I did so every single meal. Eventually people ventured back out and resumed some of their public life. What then really struck me most was overhearing the frequent and obviously general agreement, especially voiced by women, that we had to kill all the terrorists, or else they were going to kill us.<br /><br />Then, three weeks after the attacks, I made my first trip back to the city. I can still distinctly recall the odor about Manhattan. Where, exactly, were some of you other commenters?]]></commentBody>
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        <commentBody>It is you!! yes YOU! will be the first ones to cry and scream and play the blame game on our goverment if another terrorist attack happens here ,How come our goverment didnot do enough? those are the same questions YOU people were crying about after Sept.11 . What YOU do not understand is these terrorist love death than life it self.How dare YOU mock these BRAVE MEN in what they do , you sit there behind a computer drink your coffee and read your paper while thousands of miles a way our BRAVE MEN and WOMEN defend this country! remember this Xmas when you are with your family opening presents eating your xmas dinner that these BRAVE MEN BLACKWATER,CIA ,DELTA,SEALS, RANGERS,and MARINES are out defending your country!! LEAVE THE WAR THERE! I donot want these terrorist in my back yard. So before you play the blame game ask yourself could you do what these men do? What have you done for your country besides sit here and blog about it! LEAVE THOSE MEN ALONE AND LET THEM DO WHAT THEY ARE THE BEST AT!!! !</commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Pul leeze. I wish the Obama administration's far left and the media would  stop demonizing the CIA and switch their focus to the al Q and the other hate filled enemies we face. Am soooo tired of the verbal misdirection of the liberals!    They have  acquired the  appropriate anger; they have directed it toward the wrong target.  Bad guys: our secretive, hate filled,  religious misguided, suicidal , "civilian"  brain washed enemies. The  good guys: our uniformed, miranda trained   lawyer/media aware/ soldiers who have to deal with the media savvy enemy  and the CIA who seeks out the enemy before they strike us.  The  misdirected: the naive individuals who refuse to acknowledge the evil enemy  we  face.  The  really stupid: those people who want to provide the same citizen protections to those terrorists who wish to destroy our country!  Does our Justice Department ring a bell?? ....</commentBody>
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        <commentBody>How is this a surprise to anyone?</commentBody>
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        <commentBody><![CDATA[What is even more sickening is that they continue in Afghanistan known to Obama.<br /><br />Who is the patron of Erik Prince at the Pentagon? Is it a religious connection?]]></commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Sawed off M4 there is no such thing, very weak reporting. M4 come in various barrel lengths such as 10" and 9" for ease of use in a vehicle which many of these operators would need. These CIA folks are more than likely a bunch of pencil pushers and in need real assistance in security. Love the way most of you call them mercenaries when they were doing much worse when they were in the pay of you the taxpayer protecting your saftey.   </commentBody>
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        <commentBody><![CDATA[Krugman hit it squarely when he says here that the Fed lacks urgency for doing anything about "wrecked lives." Why is that?  Because Fed leaders are largely insulated from seeing those wrecked lives up close. They could understand wrecked banks because that's the business they're in.  But these guys--and they're mostly guys--don't relate to people who are out of work. They are statistics. And if too many of them get back to work too fast, they will cause inflation. And we sure know how bad inflation is--it hurts creditors right where they can feel it, in their wallets.<br /><br />The truth of all this is really quite blunt. It boils down to self-interest and self-awareness. Ben Bernanke is a smart guy, from fairly humble roots, I believe. But the world he occupies right now is so gilded and protected, he can't relate to the human side of the travesty we are in.<br /><br />Given all that, I dare him to be bold about job creation. We should all dare him.]]></commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Any lending a hand the Fed would do would be more of what Obama is doing, giving money to banks to lend to small business to hire people. But, this is like pushing on a rope. Why will small business hire people if there is little demand for their products? Instead they will pocket the subsidy or pay their managers more to manage less. We need to put money in the hands of consumers who will spend it, creating the demand for products made by businesses. Ever since the Clinton administration, this country has been run by oligarchs that are of one mind, help business and a forget about people. And, it won't change as long as economists accept the premise.</commentBody>
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        <commentBody><![CDATA[Here's a crazy idea: Let people create jobs; not the government.<br /><br />The government is there to govern, and they can't even do that effectively. Don't let them screw up our economy further.]]></commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Krugman; you haven't , yet, figured it out.  Obama and his people don't care about jobs.  They care about making the NYC bankers happy, and, at that, they have succeeded.</commentBody>
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        <commentBody>Is more money supply in the economy really the solution? I know it sounds like a cliche, but how about doing something with taxes? How about no payroll tax for two years? </commentBody>
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